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"new" tape - anyone else tried this?

Cliff Wilson MCPF

Cliff Wilson MCPF

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Larson has available out of their Chicago warehouse (well they did until we cleaned them out) a "tape" that they are importing from the company Conservation by Design that they bought in the UK.

It is an allpha cellulose base with starch paste.

From the website : http://www.conservation-by-design.co.uk/productdetails.aspx?id=349&itemno=SUAFTP7418

SpecificationsPaper:​
  • 90gsm
  • Acid-free and Lignin-free,
  • Buffered with calcium carbonate,
  • pH7.5to8.5
Adhesive:​
  • Acid-free Water Activated Starch Adhesive
  • pH7.5
  • Passed the P.A.T. (Photographic Activity Test)
FATG level – Conservation

I have been using it for a bit now on "decorative" stuff and I was wondering what others thought. I find the paper a bit thick and the edges a bit sharp, but that can be quickly fixed with tearing. The adhesive seems to be everything they say it is (n't) and I am beginning to think it is a reasonable substitue for "better" things.

They also make a Rag based version, but I haven't tried that.

Oh yeah, it's not expensive at all! under $12 for 300'
 
In that it is pre-pasted and buffered ph neutral paper - yes.

The paste is reported to be pure wheat starch paste. Not poly-something like the Hayaku.
I obviously can't do a chemical test, but it has a no taste on the lick 'em test.

The paper is a bit heavier than the Hayaku, although there is supposed to be a Rag version.
Not sure about the weight of the Rag version.

It costs less than half as much as the Hayaku for three times as big a roll.

So, sorta, kinda like Hayaku, but not.
 
I like the Hyaku for that level usage. It's very easy to achieve a nice feathered edge on it by hand-tearing. A roll lasts a heck of a long time, so isn't what I would call expensive. This new product sounds like it might be interesting for heavier pieces, or for booking or other applications where linen tape might otherwise be used. I wonder if LJ will be promoting it here. How did you find out about it?
:cool: Rick
 
Rick Granick said:
I like the Hyaku for that level usage. It's very easy to achieve a nice feathered edge on it by hand-tearing. A roll lasts a heck of a long time, so isn't what I would call expensive. This new product sounds like it might be interesting for heavier pieces, or for booking or other applications where linen tape might otherwise be used. I wonder if LJ will be promoting it here. How did you find out about it?
:cool: Rick
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Paul MacFarland was visiting our chapter and he mentioned it at lunch. he seemed to think it was only in the UK. I asked my rep to import some for me and he discovered it was in the warehouse in Chicago.

I think it is a useful addition and will be interested in what others think.
 
Since Conservation by Design is a Larson Juhl company, why not contact their corporate offices to see if it can be distributed here in the US on a regular basis?
 
Jerry Feig said:
Since Conservation by Design is a Larson Juhl company, why not contact their corporate offices to see if it can be distributed here in the US on a regular basis?
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it is apparently. They were stocking it, but I and a few people I told cleaned them out. It is my understanding they will (have?) restock.
 
I emailed my LJ rep about it, and she checked and was told it is "not available in the U.S."
(They actually suggested I "may want to check out University products online, they don't show that tape but they have many conservation tapes."

:mmph: Rick
 
The part # is SUAFTP7418

ljConnect (the web order system) still says it's out of stock.

I know 5 framers that have purchased it.

University products is a great company, but the closest thing they have to this is the Hayaku, which you can buy from a lot of places including LJ.

I caught wind of another "pre-pasted" product I am investigating from a Japanese paper company. Will let you know if it's interesting.

Meanwhile, call your rep back and tell her that's an unacceptable answer.

My rep was going to import it specifically for me until he found out it was in the Chicago warehouse.
 
Still showing "Out of Stock" when I try to put it in my cart.


Price has also changed significantly since first posted in July, now $17.50 instead of $12.00 unless the roll size has also changed.
 
It may not be "in the system" officially, but I got a call from LJ's Chicago location telling me it was available and confirming my order. You might want to try to reach them directly.
:cool: Rick
 
follow-up

I received my roll of this tape this morning, and have experimented with it a bit. The working characteristics are very similar to those of Hyaku tape in terms of amount of moisture needed, open time, drying time, etc. The main difference (aside from the nature of the adhesive component) is that the carrier is a fairly heavy paper (I'm guessing maybe equivalent to about 24 lb. printer paper but a little stiffer). Therefore I would only use it for hinging works on paper that is heavier/thicker than this. I mounted a few pieces of 20 lb. printer paper (including one of orange color, with no apparent bleed) and the thickness of this tape was visible, causing some distortion to the thinner, mounted paper. Also, due to the thickness and stiffness of this material, tearing does not result in the softly feathered edge one might want.


I'm thinking this might be appropriate for use on pieces for which one might consider using Hyaku but desires a heavier tape for strength relative to the piece being mounted. It would probably work well for booking mat to backing board, attaching edge supports to backing boards, etc.
:cool: Rick
 
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