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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Miller, MCPF, GCF View Post
    Isn't dye sublimation very sensitive to moisture? If so, be sure to keep it away from the glass.
    I have no idea about Dye sublimation except that it is the new thing and I need to be in it. :-)
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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    Quote Originally Posted by Russ Wood View Post
    I have not tried printing directly on mat boards, but would the amount of sizing in / on the matboard also influence how the printing would appear? For example, when I do french lines / ink lines on some mat boards I have no problems, but with others I get bleeding. I have learned to test before I commit.
    Yes, this is exactly what happened with me. The inks bled and looked terrible.
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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    Mo, some folks will let you believe sublimation the the "new" thing, but it has been around for decades. Most Kodak prints used the technology. The problem has always been that the inks were fugitive. There have been some great advances in recent years, and the heat transfer process has also improved. It is not good on porous surfaces, for example T-shirts that are sublimated have to be sublimated on 100% polyester. Look to the engraving industry to find out more about it. One of my friends has a video course on the subject, but it aint cheap. (Picture framing education is one of the greatest bargains there is!)

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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    Quote Originally Posted by Gregory K. Norris, CPF View Post
    Screen printing is very effective and not terribly costly...
    That was my first thought for the type of thing you did in this project - 3 colors, high quantity. Perfect screen print application. Check with a t-shirt printing place or a sign shop. Do you know Ylva? Pretty sure she and her husband have a t-shirt company - maybe she would be able to give you some input.

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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    Quote Originally Posted by David Waldmann View Post
    That was my first thought for the type of thing you did in this project - 3 colors, high quantity. Perfect screen print application. Check with a t-shirt printing place or a sign shop. Do you know Ylva? Pretty sure she and her husband have a t-shirt company - maybe she would be able to give you some input.
    Yes, I know her very well. I will contact her. Thanks David.
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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    Quote Originally Posted by Gregory K. Norris, CPF View Post
    Mo, some folks will let you believe sublimation the the "new" thing, but it has been around for decades.
    There are people claiming that dye sub is the new thing? HAHAHAHAHAhahha! *ahem*

    Yes, it's been around for many, many years. I think it was invented in the late-80s, shortly after the laser printer was invented.

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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Lenz, Jr. View Post
    There are people claiming that dye sub is the new thing? HAHAHAHAHAhahha! *ahem*

    Yes, it's been around for many, many years. I think it was invented in the late-80s, shortly after the laser printer was invented.

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    Andrew, what's your problem with me? I get that you know a lot more than anyone about anything but come on!
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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    I'm sorry, Mo, you mistook my post. It was most certainly not directed at you, but at those telling you that dye sub is new. You are the victim. It's not new. It would be like sales people claiming that manual mat cutters are new. It's an amusing sales claim. My apologies if you took my post as disparaging to you, that was not my intent at all.

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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    Mo, If I understood correctly, you were able to successfully print on paper, mount that to the matboard, and then cut the window & perimeter. Right? Maybe that's still the best way to achieve the results you want without having to deal with unknown disparities between mat surfaces and inks.

    Inkjet technology is versatile, easy to access at reasonable cost, and has progressed to the point of excellent durability. Sometimes it's best to go with what we know works.
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    Re: Logo Printed on Mats (kind of) and mat openings

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Miller, MCPF, GCF View Post
    Mo, If I understood correctly, you were able to successfully print on paper, mount that to the matboard, and then cut the window & perimeter. Right? Maybe that's still the best way to achieve the results you want without having to deal with unknown disparities between mat surfaces and inks.

    Inkjet technology is versatile, easy to access at reasonable cost, and has progressed to the point of excellent durability. Sometimes it's best to go with what we know works.
    Yes and agree.
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